From nobody Thu Nov 04 11:19:22 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A13218290D0 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2021 11:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.kotowski@a9development.com) Received: from mail-4317.proton.ch (mail-4317.proton.ch [185.70.43.17]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HlLkr6qnHz3NR9 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2021 11:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.kotowski@a9development.com) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 11:19:22 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=a9development.com; s=protonmail; t=1636024763; bh=q/xGsQc/66SNeo2vmHZKuNw0u3Dap9waWjD3wu2FHck=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=vwRHZgUsbLPYCQSXBw9oI1EmOHohf5VjD0rWH6xWbaaKFoI3C8N0/OVDs3mK/QAi4 QikarLXuKFxoOYOfVPD4rmUhiWy7xHtfB3p9+oiufCFPe2gkn3KG0I7g1nRbJIIzTk LDRkDKM0kcgwv/3v1/I+MnVehvectZdWzXYZYPwQ= To: Emmanuel Vadot From: Dan Kotowski Cc: Warner Losh , "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Reply-To: Dan Kotowski Subject: Re: Fwd: FreeBSD 14: Poll armv6 deprecated or removed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20211103144619.6f4e52d5e879427e239505be@bidouilliste.com> References: <20211103144619.6f4e52d5e879427e239505be@bidouilliste.com> List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mailout.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HlLkr6qnHz3NR9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > For 1. it's impossible to know the numbers of users currently Maybe we can't "know" that number, but I think we can at least assess wheth= er it's still popular or not by answering some downstream questions: - For each package, how long does it take to build? - For each package, how many times was it fetched by month? That right there will at least tell us a rough lower barrier of the time th= e community was saved. - Are those numbers steadily going down? - How far along the tail of the distribution are we? It's far from accurate, but when compared across architectures we can proba= bly make some sort of reasonable assessment about the general impact of no = longer supporting armv6, which is better than throwing up our arms (pun ver= y much intended) and saying it's impossible to know. --Dan Kotowski