From nobody Sun Jul 28 02:50:12 2024 X-Original-To: arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WWmFG4ym2z5RF4Q for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 02:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f175.google.com (mail-oi1-f175.google.com [209.85.167.175]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WWmFG01Rdz4djf; Sun, 28 Jul 2024 02:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=freebsd.org (policy=none); spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com Received: by mail-oi1-f175.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3dab336717fso1591584b6e.0; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 19:50:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1722135024; x=1722739824; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=o/sgjkF2cBuWOkdRf7Zd1UG1IS85xcoOOzTyMUcU4Fc=; b=nIJtLuikYA/66+jQw12gag2lTqwhGQPWhv9JN+imXe59/Ocr5wsLuIFcRUein0R3It AZ85idFOEqCm0v7k8UQLu24nADTbuh5IjariVb9FPId+8zZfNqeapJjCK01cbKVjXi7F 7YDc7HZddUG80AKkp+bo0r+ssA7Vkq2p8xCplgeCROBVIwJGugmXSuXsjkotsaaPF0Ow VIBaGpAJX+G8aDFuHBroxc2L5QzAoUdanTqLYncmnE2kFGBVOI9IAYVJyZYemTT1bepx GJv8xc9Xdkk2cOZ/4l58jzQGY3QdjEKtMO1FV5sD+1mFFWBdBQbF1hQmLGdujAE3BL+o Ftyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw0yepaHyjFrzhKkUB73VtQ5RDyPIYIkV2PhQKQxQ7rnG87Bdmz bqU8MIWKbZYpkgVuV6o8Ry01TPNt5lr19iVVFV547clwRr+iaV8eT3lgAo7Z46HCCsDI02hsxZv 1eiRHa+H3n1vIZ0oQ0PZ/CIH7Ko1btU+9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE+dlsfvZmH4V/mpEGeYWEVIeEBp9SR71gvebAsLdVErYQUHwH8E1kY4C8WHLSXo3gkgQwU6kEamoO/cg9nF5M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:7004:b0:703:62f9:1aa7 with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-70940c0b306mr6081665a34.9.1722135023888; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 19:50:23 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9bbb12ee-d5e0-4e9c-a832-bbfe5eea0ba6@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <9bbb12ee-d5e0-4e9c-a832-bbfe5eea0ba6@FreeBSD.org> From: Ed Maste Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:50:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Default NO_CLEAN=yes in 15+ To: John Baldwin Cc: arch@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.85 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.985]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.970]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.167.175:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[arch@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.167.175:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WWmFG01Rdz4djf On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 15:58, John Baldwin wrote: > > A few years ago, Ed Maste added a MK_CLEAN option to src.opts.mk to as a > WITH/WITHOUT knob for the "clean" step similar to NO_CLEAN=yes. To preserve > existing behavior this knob currently defaults to on, but I know Ed's goal > was to eventually flip the default so that NO_CLEAN builds would be the > default. I would like us to do that starting in 15. I've opened https://reviews.freebsd.org/D46172 for the change.