From nobody Sat Dec 28 02:43:27 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YKmrf4dPfz5jmCw for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2024 02:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Received: from mail.w13.tutanota.de (mail.w13.tutanota.de [185.205.69.213]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.tutanota.de", Issuer "Sectigo ECC Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YKmrd0ZmLz4MqN; Sat, 28 Dec 2024 02:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tuta.io header.s=s1 header.b=YK3ZuKGN; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of henrichhartzer@tuta.io designates 185.205.69.213 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=henrichhartzer@tuta.io; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=tuta.io Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (w10.api.tuta.com [IPv6:fd:ac::d:10]) by mail.w13.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143374CDB64D; Sat, 28 Dec 2024 03:43:27 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1735353807; s=s1; d=tuta.io; h=From:From:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=8jIquzF8w2v5d8znZXo/xiAmA20P77YDnFI5k1fQL90=; b=YK3ZuKGNXUA57j/TLPYcWTLUUzS8zr4kbwxIeOaYISLG1WXEJlNJqf2tMdXqcjx3 j3Wf9V99kirpm0rid81W12eYwJ0n7ZzsZhHUjq014wKt+CjNpbIqcaLiXX+R9LjPxSu 5p9zHyDS2MLJrmkcRmPHMSFbsjSp2/qNzxqSCfZtb/BbOpc/spjDGYWHJFIjIXSK/iW TTMHzZcBXrSFH2bhk+/FJMjeuo7F56hlYXq/2/Z6o86vMCnJxtWjdoBKgg6FGnlwMyL XO9UEFLAkgpEOlESoPbAQmOKNLkkyRvQKkVD4FR9+Amba5F5YhMltiudyL+FqIkwG28 lOuewJomqw== Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 03:43:27 +0100 (CET) From: henrichhartzer@tuta.io Cc: Kyle Evans , Freebsd Arch Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <0d63a94d-2773-4efd-b789-0b753ab38b91@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Removing shar(1) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; MISSING_TO(2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tuta.io,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.205.69.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tuta.io:s=s1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(-0.10)[185.205.69.213:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[185.205.69.213:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:210909, ipnet:185.205.69.0/24, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tuta.io:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YKmrd0ZmLz4MqN X-Spamd-Bar: -- Hi all, I personally feel that removing shar(1) is a good idea, or deprecating it for one release and then removing it. No need to keep it around. I understand the "don't fix it if it isn't broken" mentality, but removing things that have practically no place makes sense to me. For the few who need it, ports is a great option. At a minimum, it certainly shouldn't be recommended. It only has validity with very particular usecases. -Henrich