From nobody Fri Apr 26 09:30:04 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VQnXP5JCdz5JKJc for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from mailgate.Leidinger.net (bastille.leidinger.net [89.238.82.207]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (P-256) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailgate.leidinger.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VQnXN36Bhz49YM; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1714123852; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4K2egUK939cWXq0c3KcFInW9CBouFGRiyoDW/ul1ngc=; b=RmTfxooyYTpUm24H+2H3pkluzCQ+QAnIbjpbs74401m9vXBpZCctlyOKiOKi17DVeZCsc0 qjobm4KKxTtkyLkLbWBITo6njFgHrnKqphZ+PPerOLJOcH7AtFJSEvlKlyteYkKbrc4XhR UXdyeTNF2rEewGuzprLuKZpYwirour+gG8P3yyR2Sgc+FD9HeTVQB/wSkmVsjk5lAY7aWK vslvj3ci9RtkizyHYyFoRkAUf52/tLpRBY7nMY0L/Sdvq+AeuBRmTtnrfJNfP1pfmArYXc AMD9LL8sn/NYzmjLUP+BhmfJAMMXGEFKH7n8JJgv39FygRskZtXX93B/lm4j8g== Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:30:04 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Christos Margiolis Cc: Tomek CEDRO , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound(4) purge candidates In-Reply-To: References: <2b2zwiosyb24s7upkscrgmfws7j2f7fpytwyj2s2kgfhjut2bv@fziwor46qcgi> Message-ID: Organization: No organization, this is a private message. Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_434639d10171383b938bbf6428b1d1a5"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34240, ipnet:89.238.64.0/18, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VQnXN36Bhz49YM This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --=_434639d10171383b938bbf6428b1d1a5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Am 2024-04-25 17:48, schrieb Christos Margiolis: > Hello Tomek, > > Tomek CEDRO wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 7:33 PM Christos Margiolis wrote: >> > >> > I compiled the following list of PCI drivers that we could possibly >> > purge. I've included the drivers that have either never been referenced >> > in NYC*BUG dmesgd [1] or whose last reference is prior to 2010. >> > >> > snd_als4000 never (only auto-loaded by snd_driver.ko) >> > snd_atiixp never >> > snd_cmi 2004 >> > snd_cs4281 2020 (OpenBSD), 2004 (FreeBSD) >> > snd_csa 2006 (as well as a single 2020 reference) >> > snd_emu10k1 2006 >> > snd_envy24 never >> > snd_envy24ht 2018 (only reference) >> > snd_es137x 2004 >> > snd_fm801 never (only auto-loaded by snd_driver.ko) >> > snd_neomagic 2004 >> > snd_solo 2004 >> > snd_spicds never >> > snd_t4dwave 2004 >> > snd_via8233 2005 >> > snd_via82c686 2004 >> > snd_vibes never (only auto-loaded by snd_driver.ko) >> >> If these PCI drivers work fine then I would leave them as is. I have >> three SounBlaster Live/Audigy cards that works fine here on FreeBSD >> but not on Windoze anymore.. they enforce buying new hardware just >> because drivers are unsupported. We do not want that on BSD. If >> something works fine then don't touch it :-) > > No objection to keep supporting drivers that are still in use, even if > by a few users. I only want to make sure that we do not keep stuff that > is clearly _not_ used/working anymore. If the sound hardware is only availble in a package (e.g. mainboard only) for hardware which can not be bought anymore and is not supported anymore by release binaries (e.g. pure i386 vs. i486 and more modern), I would not oject to remove them. For stuff which is available on PCI cards and could be still in use in todays hardware, I do not think we should remove them based on age. 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