Re: OpenSSL 3.0 for 14.0-RELEASE: issues with 1.x/3.x symbol clashing, ports linking against base OpenSSL, ports that don't compile/link against OpenSSL 3, etc

On 23. 5. 2., John Baldwin wrote:
> On 5/2/23 2:59 AM, Antoine Brodin wrote:
>> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 1:55 AM Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> One of the must-haves for 14.0-RELEASE is the introduction of OpenSSL 
>>> 3.0 into the base system. This is a must because, in short, OpenSSL 
>>> 1.1 is no longer supported as of 09/26/2023 [1].
>>>
>>> I am proposing OpenSSL be made private along with all dependent 
>>> libraries, for the following reasons:
>>> 1. More than a handful of core ports, e.g., security/py-cryptography 
>>> [2] [3], still do not support OpenSSL 3.0.
>>> i. If other dependent ports (like lang/python38, etc) move to OpenSSL 
>>> 3, the distributed modules would break on load due to clashing 
>>> symbols if the right mix of modules were dlopen’ed in a specific 
>>> order (importing ssl, then importing hazmat’s crypto would fail).
>>> ii. Such ports should be deprecated/marked broken as I’ve recommended 
>>> on the 3.0 exp-run PR [4].
>>> 2. OpenSSL 1.1 and 3.0 have clashing symbols, which makes linking in 
>>> both libraries at runtime impossible without resorting to a number of 
>>> linker tricks hiding the namespaces using symbol prefixing of public 
>>> symbols, etc.
>>>
>>> The libraries which would need to be made private are as follows:
>>> - kerberos
>>> - libarchive
>>> - libbsnmp
>>> - libfetch [5]
>>> - libgeli
>>> - libldns
>>> - libmp
>>> - libradius
>>> - libunbound
>>
>> In my opinion this is a huge amount of work a few weeks before the
>> release.  Focusing on updating OpenSSL and those core ports may be
>> simpler.
> 
> This is my view.  I think making OpenSSL private is a very huge task, and
> fraught with peril in ways that haven't been thought about yet (e.g. PAM)
> and that we can't hold up OpenSSL 3 while we wait for this.  Instead, I 
> think
> we need to be moving forward with OpenSSL 3 in base as-is.  We will have to
> fix ports to work with OpenSSL 3 regardless (though this does make that 
> pain
> in ports happen sooner).  Moving libraries private can happen orthogonally
> with getting base to work with OpensSL 3.

+1

Jung-uk Kim