From nobody Mon Aug 14 19:04:51 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RPkNy3XCQz4Tt6L for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-f172.google.com (mail-lj1-f172.google.com [209.85.208.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RPkNw6Pwwz4KtZ for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com; dmarc=none Received: by mail-lj1-f172.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2b9c66e2e36so54365311fa.1 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:05:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1692039903; x=1692644703; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=vhV1JvoXH9I+ZakPEPxyM5REa81Pu369wieU5Pzp9XA=; b=X67jcrsvZz8H1LROsk53I0Uf1jiGxGntfHS4fa+eb4hGBVWl6AwPfgDt5FcfGY3QDW XWhStUQwOudTe//TjLxqdA6ARZlBTuSRPDFA5Dhbm6FJDzqKMQTQUHa5ASjBfMnjpsk/ Ng74BD63IS5eWZjxjDrQxMuBYzvAiybAEsmcsdp9dXSJCWAtywypsekK5UXJD0AR5+yh QKOtdeaidl1vRKg8eodDBuq/20ZoHroAHsl24Ewj81azeDQaYRIo9TXwnj7ZXcUEd0cU 0b/u2Y6o0sUBhmWolnaaCut2dMCrFpvISDUNl6y8hBwcA2h/yVSEm6tT7m1hc1L0LVKo vpTA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyy/Bp8H/J1euAq5ieEDgsvgQYokE1H/Z8WbJyNbVM0/Sioa9vx mO8M8SnzRSV+HaLOKPMDYPLkBSTZ+5dxo9/gK4EtsKq5cCxOeg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF31S7kjO+BFtb4x8z/6VYzimgB1c0eFSLJ3stcXJDfmSaABkznn+Iy521Lq7MP5rt2GKj/ZUaG+xtEfXmQrJ4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1184:b0:2b9:b7ad:71a6 with SMTP id w4-20020a05651c118400b002b9b7ad71a6mr3984992ljo.25.1692039902409; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:05:02 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5a08b091-a1a5-1928-18e1-16c3bddb1a7f@FreeBSD.org> <20230524083555.632d968778e2d1c05a04359f@bidouilliste.com> <202305240653.34O6rrQX087539@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202305240653.34O6rrQX087539@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Ed Maste Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 15:04:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-arch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.92 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.986]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.937]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.208.172:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.208.172:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[carpeddiem]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RPkNw6Pwwz4KtZ On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 02:53, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > The (only) reason I personally care about 32 bit arm is the BBB's > two "PRU" co-processors and low power budget. It's likely too late for BBB already, it was removed from GENERIC in 3416e102c4e9.