From nobody Sat Apr 16 13:04:56 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-announce@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C14C7EECFB; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauamma@gundo.com) Received: from mail.gundo.com (gibson.gundo.com [75.145.166.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4KgYMG2f00z4vBl; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauamma@gundo.com) Received: from webmail.gundo.com (variax.gundo.com [75.145.166.70]) by mail.gundo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400A04C07A8; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 08:04:57 -0500 (CDT) List-Id: Project Announcements [moderated] List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-announce List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-announce@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-announce@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:04:56 +0000 From: Pau Amma To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-announce@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Handbook improvement survey Reply-To: pauamma@gundo.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.8 Message-ID: X-Sender: pauamma@gundo.com Organization: The Cabal (TINC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KgYMG2f00z4vBl X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gundo.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pauamma@gundo.com designates 75.145.166.65 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pauamma@gundo.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pauamma@gundo.com]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[pauamma]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[75.145.166.65:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:75.145.166.64/28:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[75.145.166.65:from]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gundo.com,none]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-announce,freebsd-doc]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:75.144.0.0/13, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N The FreeBSD Foundation contracted me to develop a prioritized plan for improving and updating the FreeBSD Handbook. For the first stage of this project, I have identified a number of issues needing improvement. To prioritize the issues, please tell me which are important to you personally. Specifically, please rate each of the items listed: critical, important, useful, neutral (or no opinion), counterproductive. If you chose "counterproductive", please explain why. If there are things you'd like changed that I haven't listed, please add them and rate them as above. Please respect the Reply-to and don't reply to all. At this stage I am focusing on the English version, so please answer based on that version's content, but translations may be updated to the extent that translation teams are available. I intend to close this survey on April 30 at 11:59:59pm UTC (see https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=End+of+survey+answer+collection&iso=20220430T235959&p1=%3A for the equivalent in your timezone). 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Main list of items with some annotations for context, in no particular order: - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=262068: change the example to a sound driver more likely not to be in generic than snd_hda or remove it altogether) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261536: document dma - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263317: reorder etcupdate steps in Handbook section 24.5 (https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#makeworld) by moving the warning in 24.5.6.1 to the place in the procedure where users would need to perform it when applicable - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263318: add freebsd-accessibility@ to https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/eresources/#eresources-mail - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263319: add an accessibility section to the Handbook, per https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-doc/2021-September/000479.html - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263320; fix errant references to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/x11/ and https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#X11 (that goes beyond the Handbook, but I think it makes sense to tackle them together) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263321: add RAIDz2 and RAIDz3 to the ZFS chapter, including the note in 20.2.2 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261212: update the ZFS chapter for OpenZFS, if needed with 12.x-13.x split - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263322: follow-up to https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=7233fc956edc31002c2e8f38ce30dda6b972f24c (explain when and why to upgrade the bootloader) and https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253364 (documenting the boot partition) unless carlavilla deals with the latter - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192663: HAST and or CARP: while there, update for 12.x and 13.x - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220014: more generally make sure that only things needed early on get in /boot/loader.conf - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=258264: unclear whether it can be loaded in rc.conf, needs an update to recent driver; I'd need help from someone who has a computer using an NVIDIA GPU to work on that one - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261025: Change ETSI to etsi2 for Austria Wifi example - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121952: ipfw NAT no longer requires natd and https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116588: IPFW tables and dummynet if still applicable (see note 1 in costing) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=227050: storage device labels, better coverage of GPT: if still applicable - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=223891: NFSv4 and NFSv4.1 if still applicable - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=219953: loading graphics drivers needed for suspend/resume at least for some laptops, and https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260994: KMS needs DRM drivers for suspend and resume even on console-only hosts. I'm not sure I can help with this, though. It depends on whether console-mode VMs can suspend under VirtualBox. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261814: typo: s/union to/union in/. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261813: mention smartphones presenting as USB disks, check smartphone when troubleshooting - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=180493: multiconsoles in loader.conf, https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183002: ditto, and https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=95408: serial console install if still applicable - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=172370: Blu-Ray) if my HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GUA0N AL00 work as a Blu-Ray drive (DuckDuckGo hints it may) or someone who has one can help - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=261944: Soft update and journaling for UFS - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257405: pool vs. zpool - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254191: exFAT and FAT32 using https://github.com/relan/exfat/blob/v1.3.0/fuse/mount.exfat-fuse.8 for exFAT (https://github.com/search?p=2&q=fat32+fuse&type=Repositories doesn't show anything promising for FAT32) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257404: track ZFS resources linkrot - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240421: use geli attach before zpool import if device is geli-encrypted - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=146521: ping6 instructions for testing IPv6, since it and ping are different in 12.x. Since 13.x merged ping is supposed to be backward-compatible when invoked as ping6, no need for separate discussion. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255323: git vs. gitup and Game of Trees (got) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260007: Refactor version list in FreeBSD Handbook intro (and other books as needed) for easier update; needs discussion of where it should go and which other books or articles should use it; see also https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257818 and https://reviews.freebsd.org/D31612 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257618: vm.bios.efi=1 in Advanced Settings to allow booting in a Parallels VM; I'll need help from someone with a Macbook (or other Macintosh) for that - In FreeBSD Handbook pre-installation tasks step 2 (https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/bsdinstall/#bsdinstall-pre), merge "virtualization (Virtualization)" into a link and remove the anchor from the URL unless needed in the single-HTML version - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253874 (dd arguments) and s/Write the Image/write the image/ while there. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=223997 (portrange sysctl tuning in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/config/#configtuning-kernel-limits): who knows about that? Did any later commits change the default/initial values? - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253392 (boot_mute="NO" and other 13.x changes) needs discussion of where it would go - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252951 (chsh asks for user's password) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252893 (smb.conf) unless "map to guest" should still be specified - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252423 memoryuse (add vmemoryuse) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252069 plasma5-plasma and gnome-shell in addition to the complete versions - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=250927 (may need to experiment with no_radr and accept_rtadv, in which case see note 1 on costing) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=246091 "pkg bootstrap" no longer needed, and it's all supported versions now, not 10 and later - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=247568 (the Handbook part of ipf(7)) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263232 (clarify uses of GELI and UFS in installer chapter, add (Open)ZFS ~ encryption caveat) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263323: update https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/boot/index.html#boot-synopsis if/as needed for ZFS and (U)EFI - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263324: Move/copy reference to virtualization in the installation chapter somewhere more obvious than preinstall step 2, like in the synopsis, with a reference to install images being usable for that as well - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263326: Add QEMU discussion in the FreeBSD Handbook virtualization chapter unless the audience is too small/specialized. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263327: In Linux Binary compatibility, Advanced Topics, link to debootstrap in the 10.5.1 note - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263328: Merge wiki Linux jails content into Linux Binary compatibility, debootstrap - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=262689: track removal of i386-wine in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/wine/; while there, s/might want it do so/might want to do so/ in https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/wine/#installing-wine-on-freebsd - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=245512: Kazakhstan mirrors (If these mirrors are still current, which protocols do they use?) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263329: Link to Development model book in FreeBSD Handbook Introduction, history - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=248150: document using jail.conf instead of rc.conf, mention etcupdate - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263330: Extend the FreeBSD Handbook jails section to mention iocage - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263331Explain use of bectl (if using ZFS) in the updating FreeBSD section of the FreeBSD Handbook - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263332: Remove spurious "because" in ZFS Features and Terminology caution - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263333: Check for lingering 11.x (and earlier) and 12.2 references in the FreeBSD handbook - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263334: Remove NIS section from FreeBSD Handbook if no longer in use. - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263335: Add GPT discussion to FreeBSD Basics, Disk Organization in FreeBSD Handbook - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263336: Make sure all FreeBSD Handbook images including non-text screenshots have descriptions or text alternatives - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263337: Make sure all FreeBSD Handbook procedures have mouseless or keyboard-only equivalents - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263338: Style conformance pass over the whole FreeBSD Handbook, including removing uses of the second person - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263339: Proofread the whole FreeBSD Handbook - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263340: Make sure all procedures still work and update output text as needed Things others started/are working on: - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255318 (if 0mp is, otherwise see https://cgit.freebsd.org/doc/commit/?id=7233fc956edc31002c2e8f38ce30dda6b972f24c above) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=262742 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=259494 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=262274 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204918 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260812 (Graham Perrin may have something in the works) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242984 is carlavilla still working on this one? - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254153 is carlavilla still working on this one? - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260183 carlavilla may have something in the works - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257818 and https://reviews.freebsd.org/D31612 (gbe), which touches on some of the same issues as https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260007 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253453 and https://reviews.freebsd.org/D28622 (phk/debdrup) - need to review - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=200803 (is it a manual page change, a doc change, or both?) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=241673 (gbe?) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=244156 (blackend?) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=247285 still applicable with the current doc-building toolchain (doceng, as discussed in IRC) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253364 (documenting the boot partition) (carlavilla) - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116588 (is tmj@ still working on this?) Unsure of current completion status: - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252893 - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=241683 is this (that is, the workaround using MIT Kerberos) still needed? - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196343 ipsec gif setup: partly fixed, maybe completely - was https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=260253 applied silently or is https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256725 a duplicate or related? - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257481 (no images in epub) if still applicable - Review https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=257404 or otherwise move it forward -- #BlackLivesMatter #TransWomenAreWomen #AccessibilityMatters #StandWithUkrainians English: he/him/his (singular they/them/their/theirs OK) French: il/le/lui (iel/iel and ielle/ielle OK) Tagalog: siya/niya/kaniya (please avoid sila/nila/kanila)