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Content-Language: en-US To: Mike Karels Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-all@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org References: <202308161653.37GGrXLu058051@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <137aaabe-cba6-e88d-05d6-7fd214c9a594@FreeBSD.org> From: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/16/23 10:10 AM, Mike Karels wrote: > On 16 Aug 2023, at 11:55, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 8/16/23 9:53 AM, John Baldwin wrote: >>> The branch main has been updated by jhb: >>> >>> URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=da51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83c36f976b >>> >>> commit da51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83c36f976b >>> Author: John Baldwin >>> AuthorDate: 2023-08-16 16:49:17 +0000 >>> Commit: John Baldwin >>> CommitDate: 2023-08-16 16:52:16 +0000 >>> >>> RELNOTES: Note the deprecation of 32-bit platforms for 15.0. >>> This draws a line in the sand of removing support for 32-bit worlds >>> and kernels aside from COMPAT_FREEBSD32 and lib32 support. The >>> project may choose to alter this approach when 15.0 is released by >>> extending some level of 32-bit support in 15.0 or later. >>> In particular, at present there is a fair bit of interest in retaining >>> armv7 support in 15.0 at least. >> >> This language probably needs further tweaking before 14.0 ships, but it's a >> start at least, and we need to get the associated warning into 14.0 to give >> users lots of heads up before 15.0 ships. > > From the RELNOTES entry: > > + FreeBSD 15.0 will not include support for 32-bit platforms. > > That sounds quite definite, although it is softened in the last paragraph. > Maybe "is not planned to include" or something like that? Yeah, I'm not sure exactly how we want to word it. We want to get people's attention so they know to give feedback and/or adjust future plans while also reserving the right to relax our stance. "is not planned" might still work well enough for the former though. -- John Baldwin