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Message-Id: <0EA18905-9EC2-4F44-9FDC-2FD73C591160@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:09:42 -0700 To: John Baldwin , dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) References: <0EA18905-9EC2-4F44-9FDC-2FD73C591160.ref@yahoo.com> X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.65.30:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RQx4R59p8z4F21 John Baldwin wrote on Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:55:37 UTC : > On 8/16/23 9:53 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > The branch main has been updated by jhb: > >=20 > > URL: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Dda51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83= c36f976b > >=20 > > commit da51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83c36f976b > > Author: John Baldwin > > AuthorDate: 2023-08-16 16:49:17 +0000 > > Commit: John Baldwin > > CommitDate: 2023-08-16 16:52:16 +0000 > >=20 > > RELNOTES: Note the deprecation of 32-bit platforms for 15.0. > >=20 > > This draws a line in the sand of removing support for 32-bit worlds > > and kernels aside from COMPAT_FREEBSD32 and lib32 support. The > > project may choose to alter this approach when 15.0 is released by > > extending some level of 32-bit support in 15.0 or later. > >=20 > > In particular, at present there is a fair bit of interest in = retaining > > armv7 support in 15.0 at least. >=20 > This language probably needs further tweaking before 14.0 ships, but = it's a > start at least, and we need to get the associated warning into 14.0 to = give > users lots of heads up before 15.0 ships. The way I read: + stable/14 and earlier branches will retain existing 32-bit + kernel and world support. Ports will retain existing support + for building ports and packages on 32-bit systems on stable/14 + and earlier branches as long as those branches are supported + by the ports system. However, all 32-bit platforms are Tier-2 + or Tier-3 and support for individual ports should be expected + to degrade as upstreams deprecate 32-bit platforms. + + With the current support schedule, stable/14 will be EOLed 5 + years after the release of 14.0. The EOL of stable/14 would + mark the end of support for 32-bit platforms including source + releases, pre-built packages, and support for building + applications from ports. Given an estimated release date of + October 2023 for 14.0, support for 32-bit platforms would end + in October 2028. it seems that armv6 would have continued support until October 2028. (That could be the intent, for all I know. 2028 and armv6 just seems like an odd combination to me.) The text: QUOTE Ports will retain existing support + for building ports and packages on 32-bit systems on stable/14 + and earlier branches as long as those branches are supported + by the ports system. END QUOTE reads to me like only "self hosted" building of ports and packages is referenced. (That may be the intent for the wording, I was not sure.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com