From nobody Wed Sep 21 21:25:11 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MXrzY22Mwz4cMvj; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from cell.glebi.us (glebi.us [162.251.186.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "cell.glebi.us", Issuer "cell.glebi.us" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MXrzY0MN8z3qgj; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from cell.glebi.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebi.us (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 28LLPBgX012919 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebi.us (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 28LLPBVH012918; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebi.us: glebius set sender to glebius@freebsd.org using -f Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 14:25:11 -0700 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Mike Karels , Cy Schubert , Brooks Davis , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon Message-ID: References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org> List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org> X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MXrzY0MN8z3qgj X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:21:15PM -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote: L> On 09/21/2022 4:11 pm, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: L> > Mike, L> > L> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: L> > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. I L> > M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, L> > although L> > M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a L> > M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images L> > often. L> > L> > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over L> > nc(1)? L> L> telnet is basically finger memory (at least for me), and L> nc isn't L> in base (AFAIR) nc(1) is in base since early 2005. Since then I have fixed my finger memory :) -- Gleb Smirnoff