From nobody Tue Nov 08 19:50:33 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N6JcB20Dpz4XNNS for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 19:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N6JcB1ZXpz4b7x; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 19:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1667937034; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=GWrHZFW+OiuGD+Apk+a40qN+bljC7O3+m/jqq6uQhhE=; b=EF+R83ufnyCEQbOoFnyectYqbCSKX9JeeeEaheezDhGi/TJ3VQc7nqOn1qNMwemao8Hc5K aHVTVvKQPXmvwVxu0oI2GhsZK63yIDmnzDFfzy5X610R/s4VHJ+GTVTOCNPo/GOPKBJj2/ zAjtLybqtcgj8Ypja+U7e1btBuAtwo0giTYWygj7GzbpCcIU9To9enKTqR7QIP54EPL/aV hLehn2Bkpb2eAq+gARBf8RVM/fjoviDx3tFBYfanvoDlFm0VdnKgt1+qO2zxkFB231NjuD 5h4ocMXpHFBPW2vW7o/dkokLk4OfPAjqUrL4gLr3XDhfmWQAeVPYrRKdanu4AQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1667937034; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=GWrHZFW+OiuGD+Apk+a40qN+bljC7O3+m/jqq6uQhhE=; b=S0Kj6Hse2CsQaZtxIXLm7TMsrMIDu53lyEPqWnvr2Lw6/OivY82McvHSlkO11DasF4N7BE twqR0/iGnoJ9zzYlwfaOeL6tcKbqWMwpagicwjJcbliqPSHtp6WtnmieT5/q4XoTva8v92 nD5M+ogno6irxpX2bPA5nb/DDT3ALythrUbUJkXKu0LW5j4T+JwjVC5TVcyAEYejt6lwWM 4FDSBR27M3au5AgKdqdugLzYPSiKWrk4XuSOb2M7Sz1za7wMz9rkNwKwf9njHxQPE3EkrP VG68ghQYoN1X7VERjaHq04S0BsUrS9ZkewVMBS/1yJRfJ0XCDmmSDkgBj5YLiQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1667937034; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=i1clmjWOxx6T04Y9K+sB4NzRsf68tG2QuVfQr45WoylT77pLEEyymoNmc44QQBEbBNyP6K PZW9APHWNA0WMz51bP6hT1KCVl8rPv3T97IG42Gq+z7ZByoTeR0BT1ST5/Gd3JAssfEuOI Vm5CR+MQgs3vfiGpDrr3GRYzl7KF93Rw6m+VwP48OJzhPpjpoKlZgQkYawRdaaPL+qrCvP teidiCMyLJZ8XeqjoBDOc+WOEvh1aRCApB7d3IlPbapDr6fbIvUNjrby0IosIYVmEEBJzr Ojwcol4TgzUNv01mZ0eGUR8DPWbTmIKCHAcY6RXSYK53Z6/3vVHFkS6+5B13fw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ubertino.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:19b:4400:1779::1042]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: matteo/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4N6Jc96nZBz13ns; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 19:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matteo@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 14:50:33 -0500 From: Matteo Riondato To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: Mark Millard , dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: b7104f19147f - main - sendmail: document that sendmail_enable can be set to NONE Message-ID: <20221108195033.oa5gpgiadbdghkqa@ubertino.local> X-PGP-Key: http://rionda.to/files/matteogpg.asc References: <0BC32C72-6996-49BB-AF50-CB3044D79687.ref@yahoo.com> <0BC32C72-6996-49BB-AF50-CB3044D79687@yahoo.com> <20221108191406.c7er3d6koulh5vom@ubertino.local> <7EE0DEE9-D72E-4F5E-9B71-A3FF1C62756D@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2xle5jonhdncppvt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7EE0DEE9-D72E-4F5E-9B71-A3FF1C62756D@FreeBSD.org> X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --2xle5jonhdncppvt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2022-11-08 at 14:17 EST, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> >>Indeed the issue that I intended to raise was that, AFAIK, there is no=20 >>documentation, for NONE, except if one reads and understands=20 >>/etc/rc.d/sendmail. It is something that is known by people "in the=20 >>know", and probably mentioned by a some online tutorials, but I don't=20 >>think there is anything "official". >> >>Even the handbook, in the section about changing MTA=20 >>(https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mail/#mail-changingmta)=20 >>does not mention NONE, but explicitly sets the four variables to NO. >It is documented as deprecated in rc.sendmail(8) Sorry for missing this: this man page is not linked from sendmail(8),=20 nor from rc(8), nor mentioned in the script that it describes, although=20 it is linked from rc.conf(5) (and from no other manpage, as far as I can=20 tell). If NONE is deprecated, then perhaps it would have been better to set the=20 four variables to NO in the modifcation. Also, I wonder whether the value of "mta_start_script" in rc.conf should=20 be changed to reflect that the default MTA is no longer sendmail, and=20 also what the role of /etc/rc.d/othermta should be (and whether it=20 should be updated as well). 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