From nobody Fri Oct 22 16:59:28 2021 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73434180B6B1 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 16:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound5a.ore.mailhop.org (outbound5a.ore.mailhop.org [44.233.67.66]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HbVv81MS0z4lCx for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 16:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1634921971; cv=none; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; b=mAdf2zYOfC2to/XsVfoR8ZkfWxHcExnL6NaKEzMK/PsEwQxNcdqz3czuGSpNiezsShKgfCC2duUzB 6I2tgPDqas4EjQZG5H10BwVgDoybxMpcRv0Oek+JBV8diaMCt2SNs2mgW7/ygrB2TkJp1CfOZ4EbtJ yUhS77OkzkfKkWOzkFQd23TUrMbpGw/2L7sXUyQkv8zHEk7LjH1fPG5Y6XNNvnV/BfbTX6JgDth3C9 jaqENvt3V/7JdlNBi3kz8PmfL5yntDxPX8HPqAxVGUMumWiS7QcEdOS6EhW1DeyiXC0LH26vTQ/3ri OrBCHW1dfIl6xGyvsslzh/MPXPsAmVA== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:dkim-signature:from; bh=75L4NOhp8svR+3asHh9nEXk0PCm2q7y+tvGcukBdXqQ=; b=LDZZ8IYq4Uxum6KnBCrWBBGUUvRXMyiwyS7DDRg/tBwWe5jnhiiscktc16M+AIjHaFRqIn/ov9bvg ASCjUxK/UXg5+84+wByfN7BOfT5LwhPtMiHhMfgfFFdaqsiivBFtOahRAjq6cmZ0M0mOvpbbMWp77u Y66AZUJBf7C2XNNbMmiJRDfwWdt6ZkU59OFBIFfnXjY10mjsfFmDTP7drrErHldY+pJHEtaCS4jq9V EsczvDyS3UTm/sC6swlF539wbcRY3/3N1DZ0Tc/wO2C/gXZnfvmJkfNvrLn1wQjxnxFaq8tewGtg6b tdJPx4PR6r/pEt21iDALBEI2WJPwVeQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; outbound3.ore.mailhop.org; spf=softfail smtp.mailfrom=freebsd.org smtp.remote-ip=24.8.225.114; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org; arc=none header.oldest-pass=0; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=dkim-high; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=75L4NOhp8svR+3asHh9nEXk0PCm2q7y+tvGcukBdXqQ=; b=wjkLSr3qrCUDS/vWxz6jR3rJfcYYXrB0LyiIzBWAAXC5yjSIps/CAp3QQneejSz3vYlGBrkeh9WfT 1C0jxpIP+HsQNd8S2iZL7T4hBkpTCMAmSOfwUkQqAxbW7Upadkez6RdhNIZ8bqyqlRVX1/r31q948r 3x8In6AmIAUXZ8vXOQEkdkVwzTxjNdxH4sUVGdMfwO/Rn7EuQUDe5SlGH9fLn2cXFOIIw5djz53J3p lZORNRLEGyWaGfdi07PIVFa+HsAEfWb5xdu/cdSes0GuucEdbpSibN/TfA/crUwBSMV9v3808iVT+K ucATVFcdskRCcQNqF6K+loQ7K8vqnAA== X-Originating-IP: 24.8.225.114 X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: 6b9c9b3b-3359-11ec-9e58-bf9d68d023b6 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (c-24-8-225-114.hsd1.co.comcast.net [24.8.225.114]) by outbound3.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 6b9c9b3b-3359-11ec-9e58-bf9d68d023b6; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 16:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.22.42.84] (rev2.hippie.lan [172.22.42.84]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 19MGxSNt083324; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:59:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: paranoia.hippie.lan: Host rev2.hippie.lan [172.22.42.84] claimed to be [172.22.42.84] Message-ID: <2d9f9df5958cec23b11d6e23e0b20c236db44574.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default From: Ian Lepore To: Alexey Dokuchaev , Warner Losh Cc: src-committers , "" , dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:59:28 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> <20211020095206.GA77338@zxy.spb.ru> <20211020134237.17596440e1fabda5d40f6985@bidouilliste.com> <20211021080214.GB77338@zxy.spb.ru> <99e7aecf-9ab7-8b8f-ff30-b5fce3e031c2@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" User-Agent: Evolution 3.40.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HbVv81MS0z4lCx X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 06:28 +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Our users aren't so unsophisticated as to be totally swayed by the > > choice of wording. > > This is not how it works Warner, you don't first offer biased poll > and then defend skewed results by appealing to observed ratio and > how smart your target audience is. Do you really believe different words would change the result from 4:1 against to some number in favor? Of course you don't, you're only complaining because your opinion is VERY CLEARLY the minority one. -- Ian