From nobody Wed Oct 20 01:23:15 2021 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5195180F8CA; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HYtCl4pRWz3lgK; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1634692995; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TzeDPt7OWvzZXa7IP4RQTUrvnKEQvjRZrilANL2dW6Y=; b=nw9fdocQYBhWkIxD4j1hlt7y2k+RQKEGAWezQTvuBm9sD+Znm6w8A8toJQqnmptsQQrYM8 dZEDe/IsUK9No5LfQ0LdYCWO8E3VjZFttpZYm0SrvzOU+qeE2efSi7zIiWnBLgMeeaGL6O ctHrS/gLERdEzS9fz1Y0T0jdHYw3k19CGYTjYTpgT0QeeDMTTS9k1VEGYishHRQq5xuMhx l+exfPGdwGob7EyO/7SLpyAF5WwzgjYmCuvrmfJgTqSlu7XvAvudHQ4AbWmemXBxvHZ2tE kRslfpjxA0mkn1oEd0yPXS9oOQDEfR1wXF9QSnEGYPKmOcI4Nns7aAYNRNNiQw== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 957B619B22; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:23:15 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Emmanuel Vadot Cc: Slawa Olhovchenkov , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default Message-ID: References: <202110190738.19J7cFtw067994@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20211019112132.GC80160@zxy.spb.ru> <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1634692995; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TzeDPt7OWvzZXa7IP4RQTUrvnKEQvjRZrilANL2dW6Y=; b=yKLLigL+UQMZpkSKeOQbaxZdqb05/B/4HKa/VCP5GdGdAvjNxPqRsKuaiwOjrNycvQXszM vCil4cMYXjsEnERk353JpUWMPnThHh/NQLyHM0nuD6akhiWNsudxb0oOJCzeIPDg80C/QS kCGnfMro+TsvWGIln/G4dtH/XkFZXKjbEmuqsqQW1iMzVhXbOuiL7LuYoelyshB+bc2qhp 0g06RzQNYhnwcf0dVt3lUkQgzmf21iMLy2TjeRfvFBCatQSVgCxQI1ZUW6ILIOaU0d5lZb wMRlJvHYeMebvTX8IeaLOA2TWXJvSPDXzqoATVc3FAVqUtjp0ZMvDakNQDHaGw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1634692995; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oz9aEyc6kyg9+VT86oLMEDhVpSct1B5VYWG5J7tLkErQV3aSjkpCY0zqTWmSQ30MZbKqHE be1haJrC4mbprQMx64jdK8LEz/pjKAvB3WXPc5txWK5bOkUnPjJ+KO9FHF1V3FNtsiLzTM OKghAgHx0/quByXmNc77P1WkQ7NE77rfPMMm0KEPvJ2N9PPOAMDkVR9LLdfg7Hp69xKpwf S6MQyoVag89fXA/kxNfEBsbPN9ewy/MLLPhltrQ6nmMqPHQeg/ENzFH8Cqk37fYoh4ckjU ILfXnlJGE3t72tebSYSKvRKuD5+GHaGxpR0WBOj6MyPt90zLmlPfdVWtw8lEGQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 01:37:00PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:21:33 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 07:38:15AM +0000, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > commit 225639e7db685a4047e384abdbc296c0e02bd147 > > > > > > vt: Disable bell by default > > > > > > Bell is either useless if you're working on remote servers or > > > really annoying when you're working with a local machine that > > > have a loud buzzer. Switch the default to have it disable. > > > > For you, not for me, for example. Also, this is violate POLA. > > Just set kern.vt.enable_bell=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and you will be > happy again. Actually, it should've been the other way around: it if annoys *you*, then you should just set kern.vt.enable_bell=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf and be happy. I'm also used to it, it's a nice indicator that things work normally, including the bell itself. > And POLA doesn't means that we can't change a thing. FWIW, controversial changes like this should go through the formal review process, giving everyone interested a chance to chime in, not like closing the differential in less than 24 hours. ./danfe