From nobody Wed Sep 21 21:42:32 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MXsMg6kwxz4cQ5Y; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Received: from mail.karels.net (mail.karels.net [216.160.39.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MXsMg5MmMz3sZL; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 21:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Received: from mail.karels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.karels.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 28LLgXPm072669; Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:42:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mike@karels.net) Received: from [10.0.2.130] ([10.0.1.1]) by mail.karels.net with ESMTPSA id 9DPeD0mFK2PbGwEA4+wvSQ (envelope-from ); Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:42:33 -0500 From: Mike Karels To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Gleb Smirnoff , Cy Schubert , Brooks Davis , src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 16:42:32 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5913) Message-ID: <6C27C573-601C-40F8-99C9-C964F9C2B3E2@karels.net> In-Reply-To: <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org> References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4MXsMg5MmMz3sZL X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 21 Sep 2022, at 16:21, Larry Rosenman wrote: > On 09/21/2022 4:11 pm, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> Mike, >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: >> M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. = I >> M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, altho= ugh >> M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a= >> M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images of= ten. >> >> Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over nc= (1)? > > telnet is basically finger memory (at least for me), and = nc isn't > in base (AFAIR) Ditto on the finger memory. And I tried this: mike@backup$ nc mail 25 220 mail.karels.net Service ready helo backup.karels.net 500 Command missing Carriage Return telnet also accepts a service name instead of a port number (part of the finger memory). Mike > -- = > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 214-642-9640 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org > US Mail: 5708 Sabbia Dr, Round Rock, TX 78665-2106