From nobody Fri Oct 22 06:06:27 2021 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175E318121E2; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HbDPg08yhz4hVm; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.0.88] (unknown [195.64.148.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: avg/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03E8C2D558; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) To: Warner Losh Cc: src-committers , dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org References: <202110190738.19J7cFtw067994@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20211019112132.GC80160@zxy.spb.ru> <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> <20211020095206.GA77338@zxy.spb.ru> <20211020134237.17596440e1fabda5d40f6985@bidouilliste.com> <20211021080214.GB77338@zxy.spb.ru> <99e7aecf-9ab7-8b8f-ff30-b5fce3e031c2@FreeBSD.org> From: Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default Message-ID: <718707f9-57e9-057e-1811-f9229f2da9de@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:06:27 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.14.0 List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 21/10/2021 22:52, Warner Losh wrote: > This discussion to date has been data free. I created a poll... > > https://twitter.com/bsdimp/status/1451274644439265308 > I tried to abstain from this discussion on whether the bike shed should have been repainted although I do have an opinion :-) Don't have we have anything better than twitter for such a poll? Something on FreeBSD infra maybe? I recall some polls and surveys in the past and they weren't on twitter. Reading some comments on twitter (thankfully I don't need to sign up for that) I see a valid point about feature discoverability. If it beeps, I know that it can beep. And if that annoys me, I'll try to research how to disable it. If it doesn't beep, how would I even know that it can beep? (Asking for a 15 year old friend). Maybe I would find the beeping useful and pleasant, but what are my chances of learning that it exists? -- Andriy Gapon