From nobody Wed Oct 20 01:55:34 2021 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-all@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA83E1802C3F for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb33.google.com (mail-yb1-xb33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b33]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HYtxG6866z4Xpk for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 01:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb33.google.com with SMTP id a7so8411408yba.6 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EQ2cNebXoIMPXPZK/W9XOi+eA7cy+4JGj9+Skk4AZS8=; b=kQxNrfO8OcBtO0iLhR0zCgP+ITPh+qivcaijq7/6dk/o7CsDCzp+T2VDxHEA8tzJ+j fnkaxAQ5ZbJjw4hV/1eZ75cL4slQv1MPolbUkXJxq4+kPlU3000Qdw5/Xe6x8C5SyW0X 96EwFYoOg+0ywXud3sPEzKuCsBsCBd8L6dinM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EQ2cNebXoIMPXPZK/W9XOi+eA7cy+4JGj9+Skk4AZS8=; b=Hrwvsx47B0Y9q+rhc9hTzmgr4B7JDDKOvnrqUEDgc67Qwf7T+AkGMOQo5aSiOv53T+ vzSBKjlWpXDlIbtTziI7I98hsOT1GEcKSVZ5Ygkk6lS6iO1+jIwZYKeRruowwNQ6Nk1v AjFynJyuuN6wSuLcZDpQtnlgkTbDAEFBVr/qZrRXZERLNdlSv+4Ba4wIEFgRbmscfjvI VJVBrGhi7cwmRIaYf5c/W5gj85Jv++OraaMTDpMEiA0xMxRHeVXOVJGDBg9PBh03EiDA 2dVJQXPBpMA4YbMQ0qfD/d/whN87y3fAuVqS91zLjXzDpT0fol7e2IRVOu3+3F0oZfsV AuYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kXefqSYdu161dd9Yf60/Dw6E8iBlrx15jHPdnjirUBpEGC3FH 5mkAXJT0tNeHqMCCLBLiXjV0zqL4wdfboj0DRAQvLA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyTeyG2vnEL/yhEOkReZpE01y3jjNVxhzHGzTQr3+eatLQGSypiCOotPB6VZPqB7Rfh53FYpDw/jl3/Sx4kM+M= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:120a:: with SMTP id s10mr41513564ybu.224.1634694946044; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:55:46 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202110190738.19J7cFtw067994@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20211019112132.GC80160@zxy.spb.ru> <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Bowling Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 18:55:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Emmanuel Vadot , Slawa Olhovchenkov , src-committers , "" , "dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HYtxG6866z4Xpk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 6:25 PM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 01:37:00PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:21:33 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 07:38:15AM +0000, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > commit 225639e7db685a4047e384abdbc296c0e02bd147 > > > > > > > > vt: Disable bell by default > > > > > > > > Bell is either useless if you're working on remote servers or > > > > really annoying when you're working with a local machine that > > > > have a loud buzzer. Switch the default to have it disable. > > > > > > For you, not for me, for example. Also, this is violate POLA. > > > > Just set kern.vt.enable_bell=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and you will be > > happy again. > > Actually, it should've been the other way around: it if annoys *you*, > then you should just set kern.vt.enable_bell=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf > and be happy. I'm also used to it, it's a nice indicator that things > work normally, including the bell itself. > > > And POLA doesn't means that we can't change a thing. I think a POLA violation here was that some equipment emits a jarringly loud noise, and rushing to turn that off is more stressful than the change of turning it on if you value it. Safe defaults. > FWIW, controversial changes like this should go through the formal > review process, giving everyone interested a chance to chime in, not > like closing the differential in less than 24 hours. > > ./danfe >