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boundary="00000000000061d9d106250c457d" --00000000000061d9d106250c457d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Awesome features like those presented in poudriere fork should be included in main port as development options so people could test it properly. The problem of a fork is that it will eventualy diverge from main project and it can get into future problems. Choosing between poudriere and poudriere-devel is already a difficult decision to make related to reliability/stability/new features... This is only a vague opinion on what I feel about a poudriere fork port. I vote for port OPTIONS giving an oportunity of big testing features A, B, C, etc. Cheers, Matthias Fechner escreveu (ter=C3=A7a, 22/10/2024 = =C3=A0(s) 05:12): > Am 22.10.2024 um 00:33 schrieb Daniel Engberg: > > While we do not have any written guidelines about the selection of > > projects to be added to the tree this seem like a counterproductive > > move given it's maintained within the FreeBSD umbrella already and > > also potentially be perceived as poor management. Can you please > > elaborate about the reasoning of adding this to the tree? > > I do not understand why this is a problem. > The new version bring some signification performance improvements which > is very helpful to users. > For me, it drops the compile time of go based ports from 20-40 minutes > to 2 minutes which is a massive improvement for poudriere. > And if the developers do not include this modification, this is fine. > But I think it is only fair to give also the user a change to decide and > therefor are forks existing. > > Using a fork enable us to battle test new features without have an > effect to stability of the core poudriere. > > If the port get many installations that would also give an idea to the > developers how popular these modifications are and they can be included > upstream. > > Sry, but I do not get the point, why that would be counterproductive, I > see it exactly the opposite, it will help the poject to better get an > idea if these modification are requested by the community and if they wor= k. > > Gru=C3=9F > Matthias > > -- > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to > produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- > Rich Cook > > --=20 Nuno Teixeira FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org --00000000000061d9d106250c457d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

Awesome features like= those presented in poudriere fork should be included in main port as devel= opment options so people could test it properly.
The problem = of a fork is that it will eventualy diverge from main project and it can ge= t into future problems.

Choosing between poudriere and po= udriere-devel is already a difficult decision to make related to reliabilit= y/stability/new features...

This is only a vague opinion = on what I feel about a poudriere fork port.
I vote for port O= PTIONS giving an oportunity of big testing features A, B, C, etc.

Cheers,

Matthias Fechner <mfechner@freebsd.org> escreveu (ter=C3=A7a, 22/10/2024 = =C3=A0(s) 05:12):

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