From nobody Wed Jun 12 08:20:52 2024 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Vzdln1dJgz5P0H5; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Vzdln0wJ4z4XZ3; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1718180453; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PXoazcJE1A8+NsqK3TNmqRlVx+dfqPLDY38dDUaJuTE=; b=xxbqlrelduQNNFQLkv3uCj6T97XW/M4pZFELAinwV9IlYwqL4kV8ByPq2UPuwK3/T0T9Fx GyNdqUL69tyEfXkxNScD9lWuzLE7IpBrs4nWSzuzI5tGWlXBjpezK+VMZwNiyzOfRtEIX/ qo4Ae6xJ5l3m38Z6wFVFm9C4qVwfOtCQrxCRLSyxDe3Hi+lRf8119TlqMKzjzHpJ9IvTAL ZN17sc5lFd5Xm4xkDrapYE9sDp4a0fCIYXiNty+iNTMGmtn0ig+ETY1cKPGoLplOe1upDY lbQL/tOTUWMxeChoTRvMJTv3eki+TAAI4tWJ8Fj12cvKW95fNKrCMywYLIxw0Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1718180453; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HDhUPmTnazAdgagjINEhoJGFXoMvbaEvy9dTyZXOKsFa3QNPS4xNp4pbKG0BLExLxlbyBN 4Ah/cy5i6j1xJCMf+fgTvitugwYjeA+GL2q5Yr9fzpzTLQaStXPkohcAyL8LnOxBOBsybx qLv55qKaYOFG7JS64kKP1EsFfC66v077nanc81/ckjdoO8TdP+/OsjNtwwa2jjW62nVRmK QcuCSRVCp8qL1WK1NsE6N3cL2Ww73NUvPklhigT708rXOqUP6Wx9cDBm7U0uB1er58hAop dJjqIPElUlxU2JEAyjgxMlCZfVkBgUVFY/68X7Fy0RTEequIOyWZ6iUTtyo2QA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1718180453; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=PXoazcJE1A8+NsqK3TNmqRlVx+dfqPLDY38dDUaJuTE=; b=EQWx4MHe4Jpm932pAiOuefbKrXr0FDPK2PMZ/tVKykaNXquSm5mehiuMFvtFZiPeox6Ghc oBK8+gEv60TKBOU7aH6lRkMpUxXn/aylMhQLF/1ryNSwPIgCmLcZ6ZcvJp58VMwtoF7G2z 4anTnDrFnCA9BCGl6lHQq/EYDyvWcgP8wMtJC1YbeI2xn7uULpLo++RLH7L0JwRaEXHqjW BUsnqr7uRukN66TW2bR3YTTi/XkF+qCrTMMIxyac/RQ2+52b3DNbg/jkRTdI+0LOVw7HAX Z/twjT79nbDhdX9ewP1/pmjJQee1zoTvBaCaxzFiIKpIOHFKvdDEjaaxJSU9PQ== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id D8494B7DC; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:20:52 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Gleb Popov Cc: Adriaan de Groot , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: fcf990eaf36a - main - audio/sayonara: enable PulseAudio, repair Python scripts Message-ID: References: <202406112205.45BM5VNV056877@gitrepo.freebsd.org> List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:50:18AM +0300, Gleb Popov wrote: > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:42???AM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:. > > > > Which is sufficient on FreeBSD, owing to our great sound stack on > > the kernel side. > > > > > PA is installed anyway in desktop systems, > > > > Only on GNU/Linux. On FreeBSD this extra layer simply isn't needed > > and had always been opt-in for those few unlucky souls that require > > it for some strange reason. > > I suggest you do `pkg remove -x epoll-shim libinotify` since we have > our great kqueue and these extra layers simply aren't needed. Unfortunately, sometimes they are because developers are lazy, but as those ports are just thin wrappers around our native APIs I don't really mind them (or even notice) at the end of the day. Psssht-Audio is much bigger and intrusive piece of junk, which is not needed to have fully functional FreeBSD desktop -- that is, for gaming, multimedia, YouTube, sound mixing, per-program volume control and what's not. You can safely delete it and everything would keep working just fine, if not better. ./danfe