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20.01.2024 14:50, Daniel Engberg =D0=BF= =D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
On 2024-01-20T12:40:11.000+01:00, Vladimir Druzenko <vvd@freebsd.org> wrote:
            
20.01.2024 14:10, Mathieu Arnold =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=
=D1=82:

            

            

              
 On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:07:03PM +0300, Vladimir
                Druzenko wrote:

              

              

                
 Can we make some kind of schedule for mass bumps
                  of huge ports?

                

                
 Users who build from ports can schedule upgrade
                  and prevent build something

                

                
 very big "2 days in a row".

                

                
 Even if you use binary packages, updating for
                  example virtualbox will entail

                

                
 a restart (savestate/start) of all virtual
                  machines, and this must be

                

                
 planned in advance.

                

                
 If this already exists, please point to it.

                

                
 Thanks!

                

              

              
 Hi,

              

              


              

              
 I am not sure what you are complaining about.

              

              
 On the one side, it seems that you want to build
                things yourself and to

              

              
 have everything up-to-date and you upgrade every
                day.

              

              
 On the other side it seems that you would like to
                have things not

              

              
 updated so you don't have to rebuild things every
                day.

              

              


              

              
 If you absolutely want to upgrade every day by
                yourself, then, well, you

              

              
 have to expect to rebuild things, large and small
                two days in a row once

              

              
 in a while...

              

              


              

              
 Use binary packages, there, I fixed the rebuild
                every day problem you

              

              
 have.

              

              


              

              
 Then you say that if virtualbox gets an update, you
                need to restart

              

              
 your virtual machines, and that it is a problem.

              

              
 Well, it is only a problem if you have the absolute
                need to upgrade as

              

              
 soon as possible.

              

              
 And in that case, it is your problem.

              

              
 Most of the time, the virtualbox updates are not
                critical security

              

              
 issues and they can be planned on your side for when
                it is convenient

              

              
 for you.

              

              


              

              
 In any way, nobody forces you to upgrade as soon as
                there is an update

              

              
 of a port, but in the same way, nothing is going to
                force the rest of us

              

              
 to not commit to ports because it is inconvenient
                for you...

              

            

            
 

            

            
Complaining? Why do you think so?

            

            
I just ask about possibility to planning. If no - maybe
              create one? Maybe somebody have ideas how to do this
              better and etc?

            

            
It isn't "complaining".

            

            
Maybe my poor English is the issue=E2=80=A6

            

            


            

            
About virtualbox: I planned update several days ago for
              yesterday, but today I got bump. Same for firefox - just
              updated and now I must do it again or get "problems" with
              prepare update for my ports (freerdp* depends on ffmpeg).
              If I had known about today's mass bump, I would have
              planned update for today instead of yesterday. And keep a
              lot of time=E2=80=A6

            

            
I don't need update as soon as possible, but I need to
              know how long (approximately) I must wait before next mass
              bump for planning update.

            

            


            

            
Sorry again for my poor English.

            

            


            

            
-- 

            

            
Best regards,

            

            
Vladimir Druzenko
It may have come across like one but if that wasn't the intention it's cleared up by now, Either way your suggestion at least for now makes things way too complicated and unmanageable to be practical. Just run the jobs on in Poudriere walk way and do something else util they're done?

Best regards,
Daniel

For example table in wiki with rows: | planned date | port | so name for bump | the date the entry was added to the list |
= Or file "BUMPS" in root of the ports repo near MOVED, UPDATING and CHANGES with same fields.
Remove row after commit bump to main.
It's for real mass bumps like poppler, icu, libvpx, opus, webp, ffmpeg, rust, maybe perl5 or change default python and et= c.

My both build servers are busy now with build ungoogled-chromium with different build options for different hosts (one headless and other for use in gui). Next in queue are net/freerdp{,3}.
And I usually build Firefox on a live system - much easier manage build options.

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Best regards,
Vladimir Druzenko
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