From nobody Sat Jan 20 11:50:53 2024 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4THFDc6HJwz56xbj for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 11:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net) Received: from smtp-8fae.mail.infomaniak.ch (smtp-8fae.mail.infomaniak.ch [83.166.143.174]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "relay.mail.infomaniak.ch", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4THFDc35wDz4XhR for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 11:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtp-4-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch (unknown [10.7.10.108]) by smtp-3-3000.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4THFDZ1X0RzMpyVW; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 12:50:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown by smtp-4-0001.mail.infomaniak.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4THFDY5WhyzXdc; Sat, 20 Jan 2024 12:50:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pyret.net; s=20231006; t=1705751454; bh=ZK5+LgO2J2hSWGaCZ23CEkiKsRkT4FcECgipmZykjU0=; h=Date:Subject:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=qg2dbice0ip2TYw47rkbsoru43zxfrrPLoazWDH+9utw1HdzcuigKuiMLBe2gjDaY oUkP3k6oVj/D1/O8TTFijeB/ZJDRDT5F1957uDVVFYYAugCZEUp9z9/bZ8QD947CsK MZikvc4/Sa33wSrb17ito8WdOhRGyiqhpd0eoVgnLlCfr8dWMnYjbFQw4gDJy3jFZ2 nmYQ1GHmjrn+h5LEA2IowzfZvCV4Gzur7Q4eLvdWswXwHVHyoYia0kIJFBMMQZ5Oay EA/jN/mcNDgL091523Cm1FQ07GTyjxhzED++GD01nUWAmrCho4N7dP5k1EnqYLu8gt cDGsAVmwXu8OQ== Message-ID: <4690f8987d3a0841ee7105d989847d1c@mail.infomaniak.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2024 12:50:53 +0100 Subject: Re: git: 589aaaeb09b7 - main - multimedia/libvpx: update 1.14.0 From: Daniel Engberg Reply-To: Daniel Engberg To: Vladimir Druzenko Cc: Mathieu Arnold , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=_swift_1705751453_cac4da0c4834df0d5c44d3b29e46f605_=_" X-WS-User-Origin: eyJpdiI6Ik5udnNTMnZ6Z2VtNkdPOFQ1ZGttaVE9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoiY3RQUWc0NElTN0owVUdtbSt3SDYwZz09IiwibWFjIjoiNzVlZGQyZTA2YTY0NzhmMmY1YTcyODdlNzMyM2UwMGZmNjUwZDcwMmNkMTU3YWFhNTk0Yzk3OGRlNjE5ZTI0MyIsInRhZyI6IiJ9 X-WS-User-Mbox: eyJpdiI6Im1hdCtGZ01UVm1KcUhyRVZsUEJIdlE9PSIsInZhbHVlIjoicC92TVphSWhITnBKY0VSeWs5UDBhQT09IiwibWFjIjoiYzE4YTcyMDkzMjljMDBiMjljOTgxMWU1OTRjN2RmZjMxOGU0NmQ2MDE0NGViYzY0NGQ2NzFhYmM1MzY2MGU0NCIsInRhZyI6IiJ9 X-WS-Location: eJxzKUpMKykGAAfpAmU- X-Mailer: Infomaniak Workspace (1.3.624) References: <202401200042.40K0gNmu053279@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <240f4c88-582d-4da4-ba92-50d11ddfade3@freebsd.org> <6e13868f-8910-4468-9e1d-2a231a0723ca@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <6e13868f-8910-4468-9e1d-2a231a0723ca@freebsd.org> X-Infomaniak-Routing: alpha X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4THFDc35wDz4XhR X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29222, ipnet:83.166.128.0/19, country:CH] --_=_swift_1705751453_cac4da0c4834df0d5c44d3b29e46f605_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2024-01-20T12:40:11.000+01:00, Vladimir Druzenko wro= te: >=C2=A020.01.2024=C2=A014:10,=C2=A0Mathieu=C2=A0Arnold=C2=A0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >>=C2=A0=C2=A0On=C2=A0Sat,=C2=A0Jan=C2=A020,= =C2=A02024=C2=A0at=C2=A012:07:03PM=C2=A0+0300,=C2=A0Vladimir=C2=A0Druzenko= >>=C2=A0=C2=A0wrote: >>=C2=A0=C2=A0 >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Can=C2= =A0we=C2=A0make=C2=A0some=C2=A0kind=C2=A0of=C2=A0schedule=C2=A0for=C2=A0mas= s=C2=A0bumps=C2=A0of=C2=A0huge=C2=A0ports? 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Just run = the jobs on in Poudriere walk way and do something else util they're done= ? Best regards, Daniel --_=_swift_1705751453_cac4da0c4834df0d5c44d3b29e46f605_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2024-01-20T12:40:11.000+01:00, Vladimir Druzenko <vvd@freebsd.or= g> wrote:
20.=
01.2024 14:10, Mathieu Arnold =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
  On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:07:03PM +03=
00, Vladimir Druzenko wrote:
  Can we make some kind of schedule for mass bumps of huge ports?
 Users who build from ports can schedule upgrade and prevent build s=
omething
 very big "2 days in a row".
 Even if =
you use binary packages, updating for example virtualbox will entail
 a restart (savestate/start) of all virtual machines, and this must=
 be
 planned in advance.
 If this already exist=
s, please point to it.
 Thanks!
  =
Hi,

 I am not sure what you are complaining ab=
out.
 On the one side, it seems that you want to build things=
 yourself and to
 have everything up-to-date and you upgrade =
every day.
 On the other side it seems that you would like to=
 have things not
 updated so you don't have to rebuild things=
 every day.

 If you absolutely want to upgrade=
 every day by yourself, then, well, you
 have to expect to re=
build things, large and small two days in a row once
 in a wh=
ile...

 Use binary packages, there, I fixed th=
e rebuild every day problem you
 have.

 Then you say that if virtualbox gets an update, you need to restart=

 your virtual machines, and that it is a problem.
<=
div> Well, it is only a problem if you have the absolute need to upgrade as=

 soon as possible.
 And in that case, it is yo=
ur problem.
 Most of the time, the virtualbox updates are not=
 critical security
 issues and they can be planned on your si=
de for when it is convenient
 for you.

 In any way, nobody forces you to upgrade as soon as there is an upd=
ate
 of a port, but in the same way, nothing is going to forc=
e the rest of us
 to not commit to ports because it is inconv=
enient for you...
 
Complaining? W=
hy do you think so?
I just ask about possibility to planning.=
 If no - maybe create one? Maybe somebody have ideas how to do this better =
and etc?
It isn't "complaining".
Maybe my poor =
English is the issue=E2=80=A6

About virtualbox=
: I planned update several days ago for yesterday, but today I got bump. Sa=
me for firefox - just updated and now I must do it again or get "problems" =
with prepare update for my ports (freerdp* depends on ffmpeg). If I had kno=
wn about today's mass bump, I would have planned update for today instead o=
f yesterday. And keep a lot of time=E2=80=A6
I don't need upd=
ate as soon as possible, but I need to know how long (approximately) I must=
 wait before next mass bump for planning update.

Sorry again for my poor English.

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir Druzenko
It may have come across like one but if that wasn't = the intention it's cleared up by now, Either way your suggestion at least f= or now makes things way too complicated and unmanageable to be practical. J= ust run the jobs on in Poudriere walk way and do something else util they'r= e done?

Best regards,
Dan= iel

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