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Hale" Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 20:05:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: 7ebddd96d372 - main - multimedia/mlt7*: Update to 7.18.0 To: Charlie Li Cc: "Jason E. Hale" , Vladimir Druzenko , Daniel Engberg , ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RFFkL1BLzz3wR1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 5:56=E2=80=AFPM Charlie Li wr= ote: > > Jason E. Hale wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 9:15=E2=80=AFPM Vladimir Druzenko wrote: > >> The need has arisen. > >> > > > > I think the most sensible approach would be to handle the ebur128 > > dependency similar to librsvg2 and pycryptography. It would be trivial > > to create a Mk/Uses/ebur128.mk and allow the user to set whether they > > wanted to use the legacy C implementation via DEFAULT_VERSIONS in > > /etc/make.conf. The rust version would still be the default, however. > > Does that sound like an agreeable solution? > > > Not really. > > The librsvg2 and py-cryptography arrangements exist due to being > fundamental components of many consumers of wide-ranging general use > cases. Not having librsvg2 wipes out desktop and some (web) graphics > support, and no py-cryptography eliminates nearly any Python package or > consumer using SSL/TLS/X.509. ebur128 doesn't come close to those > impacts, and thus an additional USES is not worth the cost. > I'm curious as to what cost would it add other than an extra 1494 bytes of space to everyone's ports tree and my spare time, as I've already implemented it. > By contrast, multimedia, especially on the creation/rendering/mixing > side, is not nearly a general use case compared to those aforementioned. > Since this thread is about MLT in particular, there is no need for any > special treatment here, since MLT and its consumers are not designed or > intended to be built or ran on insufficiently-resourced computingues. > environments. > That's understandable, but vdv@ seems to have had the resources before this change, otherwise would not be raising the issue. -Jason