Re: git: cf75f452e94a - main - sysutils/conky: Update to 1.14.0

On 14/10/22 17:57, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 05:31:54PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote:
>> ...
>> More practical part (conky case):
>>
>> Upstream now uses pandoc to generate the software man page. I did not
>> even know pandoc existed up to yesterday. I am definitely unable to cook
>> up a substitute.
>>
>> In the ports tree man pages are not part of DOCS, but a base component
>> of a port, so I can't wrap the man page generation in the DOCS knob.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Adding a pre-generated man page to the port? Not sure it's a good idea,
> 
> This is the best thing to do; if fact, that's part of the upstream's
> job ideally.  When grass was greener, software was released as properly
> bootstrapped, so users won't have to bother building *documentation*
> which does not fuckin' change.  The result would 99% likely be the same
> for user's of *BSD, GNU/Linux, or SunOS.  We're in GitHub era now, and
> people start to forget how to prepare good releases.  We need to remind
> them from time to time.
> 
>> I should check that [the] man page gets generated the same on every
>> release at least, and I'm sure at some point in the future I'll end up
>> upgrading the port and forgetting to update the pre-generated man page.
> 
> Right, that's why it should not be your job in the first place.  Could
> we try convincing upstream to ship pre-generated manpage?

I don't agree with this analysis, so I will not fight this battle, but 
anyone is free to file bug reports with upstream.

> 
>> For example one thing that annoys the hell out of me is seeing every
>> software grow a dependency on some HTML5+js+multimedia rendering engine,
>> often for very small gains.
> 
> +1, this is annoying as hell.  I don't know what those people are
> thinking but this cancer spreads rapidly.
> 
>> I will not be surprised the day something like less or ls will grow
>> such a dependency. But I don't have time or resources to fight this.
> 
> OTOH, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men
> to do nothing. (c)

"evil" is a very strong definition for everything. Nietzche has a very 
good book on the subject whose title translation in most languages is 
"Beyond Good and Evil". I like that title (and most of the content too 
actually), and that title is also a good description of my attitude 
towards "evil".

A dear friend of mine also insists on calling me "Dr. Hostile" [1], 
guess it figures. Maybe I should change my committer nickname! :)


[1] as a pun on a character named "Dr. Strange" or "Dr. Evil" I guess, 
but I know very little about Marvel/DC comics characters

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Guido Falsi <madpilot@FreeBSD.org>