From nobody Fri Oct 14 15:54:23 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4MprYF2hsfz4fkqs; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4MprYF25Mtz3F3Q; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1665762865; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YEMHZ3qvErot7zz9cxx02kDlguK+teo9v+V6ODR0uRY=; b=iPisbHAMfWJCj6hxXaUQGAzIUnxDIv9xjqnmRlvtAGQtUKBfZt3i4Z7GcAGqDs7VuhG9z8 UlJZJQpN+dzYBE7n2lsVp1FexKgEdP46Y1n5gdQGsc6obuD4tbyVq15lFyUgSXrPE+XS6G 2zGUUD8rxHRc3PS1/SuAZab3rnzPZRFnycuCr7Hv+aSol3dg9D/LvrmOEdw5XDDz0vgbXE gG5eHhYEFbPMzgt5/OQnvOMyjYDib9tPbrsnRKT2aEQp7uA4gJFBTHrdAW495DE5zB1LgT P7lF0WaGckmxEjeImnBS+wwPr713v9QuhxvcTsRNwjzP6DDxKIbWqaoJmxg6DQ== Received: from [172.24.42.13] (host-79-47-131-203.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.47.131.203]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: madpilot/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4MprYD50xSz1F5G; Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:54:23 +0200 List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.3 Subject: Re: git: cf75f452e94a - main - sysutils/conky: Update to 1.14.0 Content-Language: en-US To: ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org References: <202210131824.29DIO985022530@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <934dc4ad-91df-2376-63e7-b82be53ecdb2@FreeBSD.org> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1665762865; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=YEMHZ3qvErot7zz9cxx02kDlguK+teo9v+V6ODR0uRY=; b=oQGThXQzbUlW8Ci5RKEDXfTpYs2oBkfgWok2oPFWBPHwevaAOyfCK0+lg/vDtOOCKtpDxj unenBEgbKMIO5YuaGO3vckbWsFtT0ggImIN0nB9D/L4TpNHzb5110dDxP1xXdrkbWKk7u3 wezsB8uYVOfdu+ljvWjGDd1WJnzJQL1AJdb7Fznsd/YN/LIY6pS8yl75i+o1Ae/52UEJ4I aQDHI10NbLHNSVCZ98sIKslRmvht/rTNVSpXm7kQPwoXTQqhiJPlAla33UjKoagcFQiDIK 6wLU004Xr6XeG1BTUMli2dufbgbcfNIoPrqGXEYfgD/ITBqSlSPHUJBZOIJgHQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1665762865; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=KBNbppXfrliWHvVuR0sp1SwqMl8VS4QKAJUWQ9Lml6MqU/rteEEivoJtNupmTA5t4C8jrI R+RHkM4/QhF3Gl5JNR95CiQzAZPozFHGYQGXH8l9GfhvJwtg0/VPx7sYcisunckOSUwqVN chGaf0O8uFmPquhGvPhPnaDxOOoikDpuz1R7wBKleFYpKVSdQhIMY6B3v2ghd3W91O4nwQ /pjfU1utHm4JdmIZvLJvcrNXTVoK1rUqbYEFNuSvZ1qih7G0zG5CzkfaYvuP6WI+ss44Tm 6Ddq3gadeaGR8+F67YquCKN5idLzV8rois4EFS2x/lJ6yFaRtNARaIXiK9lDuw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 14/10/22 17:49, Dmitri Goutnik wrote: > Hi Guido, > > On 22-10-14 17:31:54, Guido Falsi wrote: >> On 14/10/22 17:18, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 05:01:46PM +0200, Guido Falsi wrote: >> In the ports tree man pages are not part of DOCS, but a base component of a >> port, so I can't wrap the man page generation in the DOCS knob. >> >> Any suggestions? >> > > Ultimately it's of course your call as a port maintainer how to better serve > your port users, but we have MANPAGES knob and there are many precedents in > the ports tree where it's used for exactly this reason (heavy-ish build > dependencies). Yes we do, and I could use it, but I also need to hack conditionals in the conky build system. I'll do that, and try to do that in an upstreamable way. More work now, but, if upstream accepts it, much more maintainable in the future. > > I use conky in gui-less mode (consuming its json output in i3bar) and it's > seems wasteful to build ghc/pandoc just to get a man page (which I never knew > existed). This makes me think about another much more useful idea. conky could be flavorized tyo create a UI less version. Problem doing this is I have no way to gauge how many people would take advantage of that (binary package flavor). One problem with ports is, maintainers have no idea who and how they are used, so it is difficult to understand which flavors would be most useful. -- Guido Falsi