From nobody Tue Jul 05 14:55:55 2022 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9301D00D75; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 14:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmgk@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Lcm2R2p1Rz3sbN; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 14:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmgk@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657032959; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4rL+XHuuLzm5BhLHFPrdS/evJ9KYCnkkF8f0eIydvVE=; b=NLQDlErcQgYd8OD9tlQwdUCjIg71ok3FDXBufQFFy5H8nEtWI/q3vLV6goixxAMEHHIBqG 3x8BNEUa/56IF+0PMXgt1nIM5Hue3yEuWpJeqEbwE8wowBa8NhLNx5I1KbC20vE8RPCllq hQ/5e4OvXSptlroPWrINB8ciaycaQ9NXlh4tcJc8v7DtRkKl677mEJPECTugAwvt1UBOT6 zGWkuvQACzRmzANVYD/3/DTxW9+jqrq37DjedFllNus35iiVlgi7SuAs+L7U2hHqJpmz05 c05Fb+y/LoIOPbFw4uk4zd08b+WpIoj2u1XgR68xYNL+EnSlP7204jZR3AVyag== Received: from mail.syrec.org (mail.syrec.org [167.172.159.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: dmgk/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D2AE2AC24; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 14:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmgk@freebsd.org) Received: from xombo.localdomain (38.200-55-228.etapanet.net [200.55.228.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.syrec.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E16665D786; Tue, 5 Jul 2022 09:55:57 -0500 (-05) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 09:55:55 -0500 From: Dmitri Goutnik To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , "Tobias C. Berner" , Charlie Li , Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: d128a409234d - main - editors/xed: update to 3.2.4 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Alexey Dokuchaev , Baptiste Daroussin , "Tobias C. Berner" , Charlie Li , Jochen Neumeister , ports-committers , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org References: <202207050044.2650iTZn005846@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <9d70934e-2267-998a-e445-0141447bf6c4@freebsd.org> <27f250c0-21ee-1b7b-8d37-708c55c3508f@freebsd.org> <20220705142124.mq5nvdqrzghqruxd@aniel.nours.eu> List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+KlQWaMfXWzxAvnc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1657032959; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=4rL+XHuuLzm5BhLHFPrdS/evJ9KYCnkkF8f0eIydvVE=; b=gTPnLyL8LZyDJAciX8XpaTVTL+S0M584+I1E3vqvcaPVwWF+2VCSHxNZfihD5gTwKPYcwg Csff1VxVx5FRxS23w9VSqDsnFsLVsV+Ku2fA9ViBKy+yr/2NTSY47mP3FlnSV8RGtHxMYD cAbVLG56Nb5XCY5XRFMmnVJiCdDPMTS9aACdpxSNNEuggwNdUCJWLz2vZeg0CwaST6Im7i wqjiAh+/PWv1GWQCEWvQwGvQNq63Ll/vtgguqrZYMq0ihZR7p6IS6ST6lT8XZXf//rv6WE AypjZSSljCVZT7kbsG1uI88s5Z5/OPLX1/egoyUWzs0DX6M/RC9NPXhIY9SQ0w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1657032959; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bCRPIzy9FToxfsEbWoFZQZMpqUttWkg+hUu0WVGECYUnApq959LTTZRf+CyeaUsO0shjnr OWt/JvdgGCnCPU3758xY961cKN2hXUi3Ja1pz4X4W1sUogdSpVncTuoSDBfcpT1nnpvzW7 dJ5hH/JXN3CFgR1fPI8pzg9fMnkzae5w5QFMeAVGwgjGc5P0RkhRyiU0W3a2acVvq9zSZa 7yHhd/mw4HdWu+fYK8p3F658A0DDmYfYaujYr0PC+205Tf2sjQ6UNhISpMQs4yXwPxDlyT 5osRuFNZ8tHTygZ0O1qLrPk09wrrYTicYB01Ssl7APvUUGdOLAjTNOV8vmC9IA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --+KlQWaMfXWzxAvnc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alexey, On 22-07-05 14:41:05, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 04:21:24PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 02:08:32PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > ... > > > > For the reasoning: > > > > A person just glancing at makefiles will do wrong attribution, when > > > > the 'Created by' line is there, as they don't necessarily have the > > > > history. > > >=20 > > > "Created by" is not "maintainer", it's the Porject's courtesy to those > > > who port new software. Depriving people from seeing it sends a rather > > > demotivating signal to new contributors. > >=20 > > The Created by is unfair >=20 > Why? Because as you noted elsewhere, creating new ports is hard and the result i= s=20 rarely perfect on the first try. "Created by" is unfair because it ignores = =20 work of all contributors and maintainers that brought the port to its curre= nt=20 state. At this point, "Created by" is mostly a visual noise that doesn't carry any= =20 useful information. Especially after the transition to git as (most) commit= s=20 are now properly attributed by the --author flag. If you care about the por= t=20 history, it's just "git log -- path/to/Makefile" away. --=20 Dmitri Goutnik dg@syrec.org / dmgk@FreeBSD.org --+KlQWaMfXWzxAvnc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEElV1urwzdJVGXSG3dwZe2fOviDs0FAmLEUPUACgkQwZe2fOvi Ds04sg/+JiFFIc3kWZj+Gh5oVa5COSM8V9vpf3w8Ex3NPcoxvevN+wyIAeqr9Pz1 NwztWluQN8JL3Smp0BrmHHum+dsCXm2HERAf/VEsekri4H8o4CDqj45bKe8vH+d7 3Fkp2fovW4/wXvpKorHwe2iqmeDsJaRBgKIHkIflh+NTCrpjq1COCGvOrvvqHfEA P5dqucSHB35NLLysggDoXTs1dfoSz2mw+221BULH96RQpK7zatKVt6KQzeZZHxE7 uBXjnps25IUTBh2ozfbPZFlx47vweqz34LeA16p7MBT7+sxNAEW2gPHXFfjbH+CK RZk+EgXQgLspUusT7z1gVLJEMvZV6Uxi5NytpKEWT7OtH4z3Wk1V4TLX0TxCLwlK EA3aAfhFPo3/KbLir0EwT1yGg/varIWb0yR6bgbtQ0FZ/35SP/VHvKKXklUWR6IC F3/cESFOEUkVGrrPcxWG0wQGdWp3Jwisp6AJIJkrbfMIXWRu1nDy0S7mS2LaS17m NLa/xB66AYlkCny6fkL7c5plScsIIKHw0GagmBsac/+D0I8dJ3c/ZPoboHlqYJxs DKMZVLV6jlCEF5md/trvB3gJlgHa7hhvNr/b8yu02Ku0/CrKqXQMQYXRRsCOHQ8/ 9UsNPGFgyU6b10i/Q6gfWAEtIJCLL/YvFdv6rG0m1POtIbbyrCY= =C9fS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+KlQWaMfXWzxAvnc--